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Brock Lesnar fails USADA drug test for UFC fight

Postby Str8Shooter » Jul 15, '16, 6:00 pm



Bad news for the UFC, pretty much ends his MMA career and the cash cow that comes with it.

WWE pretty much has to suspend him as well or risk looking like total idiots. And Brock himself looks like a huge loser after saying he wasn't on anything and ripping Jon Jones.
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Re: Brock Lesnar fails USADA drug test for UFC fight

Postby SlightlyJames » Jul 15, '16, 6:13 pm

Oh god fucking damn it Brock.
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Re: Brock Lesnar fails USADA drug test for UFC fight

Postby PorkChop » Jul 15, '16, 6:45 pm

How on earth did he get caught?

According to him, his fight was all but confirmed like three months before the news broke. He wasn't subject to drug testing until he officially signed, so he literally had months to cycle off whatever PEDs he was on and still couldn't manage it. His win will almost certainly get changed to a no contest now, and if WWE have any backbone they'll have to suspend him as well.

Can you imagine if WWE was subject to USADA drug testing? They'd have no one left :lol
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Re: Brock Lesnar fails USADA drug test for UFC fight

Postby Str8Shooter » Jul 15, '16, 9:21 pm

PorkChop wrote:Can you imagine if WWE was subject to USADA drug testing? They'd have no one left :lol


I've heard people saying that about the NFL too. :lol
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Re: Brock Lesnar fails USADA drug test for UFC fight

Postby CMPUNKFAN » Jul 16, '16, 1:02 am

PorkChop wrote:How on earth did he get caught?

According to him, his fight was all but confirmed like three months before the news broke. He wasn't subject to drug testing until he officially signed, so he literally had months to cycle off whatever PEDs he was on and still couldn't manage it. His win will almost certainly get changed to a no contest now, and if WWE have any backbone they'll have to suspend him as well.

Can you imagine if WWE was subject to USADA drug testing? They'd have no one left :lol


He passed more than 5 drug tests a month leading up to the fight also, I don't know what happen.
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Re: Brock Lesnar fails USADA drug test for UFC fight

Postby PorkChop » Jul 16, '16, 5:30 am

CMPUNKFAN wrote:He passed more than 5 drug tests a month leading up to the fight also, I don't know what happen.

What happened was that Lesnar took PEDS.

Jon Jones passed multiple drug tests in the lead up to UFC 200 before he tested positive for PEDs. It's not uncommon for fighters pass a few tests before USADA catch them.

It seems Lesnar is going to play the "tainted supplement" card as literally every athlete does after failing a test. Even Lance Armstrong has turned to this excuse in the past. I'm interested as to what Lesnar comes up with as we've heard some great excuses for failed drugs tests recently - my favourite was Anderson Silva's mysterious blue vial of sex potion which his mate gave to him in Thailand, or Frank Mir eating kangaroo meat which was accidentally tainted with buckets of human growth hormone.

The past couple of months were the first time in Lesnar's career where he's been subject to a stringent random drug testing programme, and he failed. Nobody can give him the benefit of the doubt here.
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Re: Brock Lesnar fails USADA drug test for UFC fight

Postby xgamr » Jul 16, '16, 6:04 am

"We'll get to the bottom of this," Lesnar said in a statement to The Associated Press.

Lesnar provided the AP with copies of three letters notifying him that he had passed USADA drug tests prior to UFC 200. Lesnar was tested eight times in the month leading up to his fight with Mark Hunt — five of them in the first two weeks he was under the UFC's anti-doping policy.

USADA spokesperson Ryan Madden confirmed with MMA Fighting that Lesnar passed multiple tests before the June 28 sample came back positive for a prohibited agent.

"With Mr. Lesnar having spoken publicly about the issue, I can confirm that he has been notified of a potential anti-doping policy violation, stemming from an out-of-competition sample collection on June 28, 2016," Madden said in a statement. "I can also confirm that the results from his previous samples collected by USADA were all reported as negative. Although USADA will not be providing any further specifics of the case at this time, I can tell you that Mr. Lesnar, as with every athlete under the UFC anti-doping policy, will be provided full due process under the rules.


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Re: Brock Lesnar fails USADA drug test for UFC fight

Postby Hanley! » Jul 16, '16, 8:06 am

WWE are now kicking themselves for putting Lesnar in a position where he could fight for the UFC.

I figured that as long as Lesnar won his fight, there'd be no real downside to WWE letting Lesnar fight for UFC. If any of their fans were going to be lost to UFC, it's probably happened by now, and it feels like ratings have dropped to the point where we're really down to just the hardcore base anyway.

But this has really negative implications for them. Their champion just got suspended for drugs and now it turns out Lesnar has maybe been on something too? That's damaging to their reputation, and their reputation isn't great as it is. Then there's the question of whether Brock has been tested by the company at all, given he's a part time guy. When asked about the Lesnar situation, WWE's statement was as follows:

“Brock Lesnar has not performed for WWE since WrestleMania and is not scheduled to return until Sunday, August 21.”

They're basically dodging the question and hoping all of this will go away. Unless things escalate they'll probably ignore the whole thing. They'll go ahead with the Orton fight if they can, although again that seems like it might hurt their reputation a little.

Though Summerslam is in New York so if Brock is suspended from MMA, he might not be allowed to wrestle, as apparently that's one of the states where wrestling is still treated as a sport. Brock being removed from Summerslam would definitely be a blow to the company.

WWE have already made themselves look bad by specifically scheduling Reigns's suspension so that he doesn't have to miss any pay per views, and letting him headline both pay per views since his violation of their drug policy was flagged. Not only that, but they seem to be using his suspension to humanize him and get him over more as a babyface. To say they've failed to set a good example with Reigns would be an understatement.

With Brock, I think they should be more proactive. You can build matches for Summerslam that would sell as much as Brock vs Randy freaking Orton of all people. It'd be a positive move for their reputation and a good example to set to their locker room to kick Brock off the show now, while the decision still lies with them. It'd give them more leverage in their next contract negotiation with Lesnar too. It'd show him that he's expendable. It'd show the rest of the roster that there aren't different standards for different people too.

I'm not expecting any of that to happen though.
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Re: Brock Lesnar fails USADA drug test for UFC fight

Postby Str8Shooter » Jul 16, '16, 8:24 am

It makes WWE look bad, but I'm not sure it makes them look that bad, simply because I think the mainstream media pretty much ignores what goes on in their World for the most part. Wrestling isn't a legitimate sport so people care less whether the guys are on stuff. Plus a lot of people who don't follow it probably assume they're all on stuff anyway.

It'll be a story for the next few days after the fail is confirmed, but then it'll probably fade away. Unless the commission bans Lesnar from wrestling in New York, in which case they'll have no choice but to cancel the match. Although even then they could just postpone it til September's PPV.
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Re: Brock Lesnar fails USADA drug test for UFC fight

Postby Hanley! » Jul 16, '16, 8:41 am

I just think it'd be better for them all around if they took the initiative and took Lesnar off the card before the commission makes the decision. He might not be able to wrestle at Summerslam anyway, but at least way it'd be them stepping up and taking action. Showing Lesnar who's boss, showing the roster that they're not going to get away with doping under any circumstances.

A WWE with balls and a conscience would be an exciting new look for them.
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Re: Brock Lesnar fails USADA drug test for UFC fight

Postby The Legend » Jul 16, '16, 8:53 am

WWE will most likely do the same thing they did with Reigns, suspend Lesnar now for 30 days and he'll still be eligible for SummerSlam. It's not the ethical thing to do, but it's what they will choose.
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Re: Brock Lesnar fails USADA drug test for UFC fight

Postby AkydefGoldberg » Jul 16, '16, 2:29 pm

WWE's statement suggests they're not planning on doing anything but if more damaging details emerge then they might have to act even though deep down, they'd not want to incase they upset Brock but as noted above, it's a great leverage opportunity in future negotiations with Lesnar and setting a message of standards to the lockeroom.
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Re: Brock Lesnar fails USADA drug test for UFC fight

Postby JPG619 » Jul 16, '16, 6:53 pm

PorkChop wrote:How on earth did he get caught?

According to him, his fight was all but confirmed like three months before the news broke. He wasn't subject to drug testing until he officially signed, so he literally had months to cycle off whatever PEDs he was on and still couldn't manage it. His win will almost certainly get changed to a no contest now, and if WWE have any backbone they'll have to suspend him as well.

Can you imagine if WWE was subject to USADA drug testing? They'd have no one left :lol


I have a feeling he will be suspended by the WWE, So if he is suspended now his match at SummerSlam can still be a go unless they want to pull him from the card all together.
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Re: Brock Lesnar fails USADA drug test for UFC fight

Postby War Daddy » Jul 17, '16, 8:39 am

It was his asthma inhaler :lol
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Re: Brock Lesnar fails USADA drug test for UFC fight

Postby PorkChop » Jul 17, '16, 2:09 pm

War Daddy wrote:It was his asthma inhaler :lol

Source?

From what I've seen, neither USADA nor Lesnar's camp have confirmed what the violation was.
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Re: Brock Lesnar fails USADA drug test for UFC fight

Postby prophet » Jul 17, '16, 2:50 pm

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Re: Brock Lesnar fails USADA drug test for UFC fight

Postby JPG619 » Jul 19, '16, 9:17 pm

Well he failed a 2nd drug test on fight night. I wonder if he going to get a second strike with the WWE. This could play a huge factor now with his SummerSlam match so who know until we hear what the WWE says about it

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Re: Brock Lesnar fails USADA drug test for UFC fight

Postby PorkChop » Jul 20, '16, 4:16 am

The journalist who originally broke the story, Brett Okamoto, has said that his sources are reporting that Lesnar originally tested positive for clomiphene, an estrogen blocker which Jon Jones also tested positive for. Lesnar also tested positive for the same thing again a few weeks later, just before UFC 200.

The inhaler rumour comes from Lesnar's team mate, who of course is going to have Lesnar's back. Nobody would come forward and say that PEDs definitely go on at their gym and bury their team mates in the media. Brett Okamoto is impartial and far more reliable.

If Lesnar is using this stuff in the USADA/UFC era, he was definitely using back when drug testing was more relaxed, in his first UFC run. Like it or not, there's reasonable ground to say that Lesnar has used PEDs his entire athletic career.
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Re: Brock Lesnar fails USADA drug test for UFC fight

Postby War Daddy » Jul 20, '16, 8:17 am

PorkChop wrote:The journalist who originally broke the story, Brett Okamoto, has said that his sources are reporting that Lesnar originally tested positive for clomiphene, an estrogen blocker which Jon Jones also tested positive for. Lesnar also tested positive for the same thing again a few weeks later, just before UFC 200.

The inhaler rumour comes from Lesnar's team mate, who of course is going to have Lesnar's back. Nobody would come forward and say that PEDs definitely go on at their gym and bury their team mates in the media. Brett Okamoto is impartial and far more reliable.

If Lesnar is using this stuff in the USADA/UFC era, he was definitely using back when drug testing was more relaxed, in his first UFC run. Like it or not, there's reasonable ground to say that Lesnar has used PEDs his entire athletic career.


People really think he wasn't? :lol :lol :lol
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