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Re: #CancelWWENetwork is Trending

Postby Messiah » Jan 26, '15, 9:03 pm

Stvtayl wrote:I'm guessing Daniel Bryan needs to win Every match he's in, eventually win the title and NEVER lose it for fans to be happy................but then what about the other fan favorites, Ziggler, Ambrose, Reigns, etc etc, where do they fit in?


You are sadly mistaken if you think that is the case.
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Re: #CancelWWENetwork is Trending

Postby Everlong » Jan 26, '15, 10:19 pm

Stvtayl wrote:I'm guessing Daniel Bryan needs to win Every match he's in, eventually win the title and NEVER lose it for fans to be happy................but then what about the other fan favorites, Ziggler, Ambrose, Reigns, etc etc, where do they fit in?



Dude, this isn't even about Bryan losing. You're oversimplifying things immensely.

Also, just listen to the reaction Reigns got last night if you think he's truly a fan favorite.
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Re: #CancelWWENetwork is Trending

Postby PorkChop » Jan 27, '15, 1:51 am

Everlong wrote:
Stvtayl wrote:I'm guessing Daniel Bryan needs to win Every match he's in, eventually win the title and NEVER lose it for fans to be happy................but then what about the other fan favorites, Ziggler, Ambrose, Reigns, etc etc, where do they fit in?



Dude, this isn't even about Bryan losing. You're oversimplifying things immensely.

Also, just listen to the reaction Reigns got last night if you think he's truly a fan favorite.

It is about Daniel Bryan. I've seen people say it's not, but it is.

People weren't booing Roman Reigns, they were booing because Roman Reigns won the Royal Rumble. There's an important difference there. Reigns had received pretty decent reactions from most crowds before Sunday night. The fans were booing the decision to have Reigns win the Rumble because most people quite clearly wanted Daniel Bryan to win. This was the case for the Rumble this year, and the Rumble last year where people shat on Batista for the same reason. Unless Daniel Bryan won, I'm 100% sure the eventual winner would've received a mixed reaction from the crowd at very best.

From what I've seen, Reigns has been getting pretty decent reactions from most crowds. He hasn't been able to win everybody over, but in his defence, his promos have been pretty terrible and with his ring work, they're attempting to make him Superman which rubs many fans up the wrong way. But this isn't about Reigns as a character - this is about the company booking him to win the Rumble and not Daniel Bryan. Big difference.
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Re: #CancelWWENetwork is Trending

Postby Everlong » Jan 27, '15, 8:44 am

^Not true at all. I think it would have been fairly easy to book Reigns to win the rumble in a way where most fans would have still been happy with what happened with Bryan. People were pissed that he got eliminated so early because it was obviously an attempt to manipulate the crowd and protect Reigns later on.

That was compounded with the way Ziggler and Ambrose got eliminated later on in the match. The entire thing was clearly set up as a way to protect Reigns, and there was no suspense at all.

Had Bryan been eliminated in a different way, or had Ziggler or Ambrose actually put up a fighting chance, things would have been completely different. But Bryan losing isn't the sole factor here.
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Re: #CancelWWENetwork is Trending

Postby Messiah » Jan 27, '15, 10:02 am

PorkChop wrote:Unless Daniel Bryan won, I'm 100% sure the eventual winner would've received a mixed reaction from the crowd at very best.


The crowd was all-in for Dolph Ziggler and Dean Ambrose so this isn't true and I'm 100% positive the crowd goes wild (in a good way) if Ziggler wins the Rumble. It wasn't until both Ziggler and Ambrose were eliminated that a "bullshit" chant started.

The fans were pissed that Daniel Bryan didn't win but the fans were more pissed because neither of the three biggest fan favorites won. All three generate louder reactions than Reigns although you could argue it is close between Ambrose and Reigns now due to the WWE killing off the former's momentum.

Roman Reigns just isn't who the face the fans want to see the most - not even in the top three. I agree he generates a solid reaction from the crowd on most nights and that is because the fans don't dislike him. But when you match him up with Ziggler, Ambrose, and Bryan? It is CLEAR who the crowd prefers and that is the bad part here. The WWE would rather force you into liking someone than choose one of the three guys the crowd prefers to see.

It isn't the case anymore but Cesaro last year before they fucked him over was generating a louder crowd reaction than Reigns too. Roman Reigns is popular but he isn't that popular compared to those guys because quite frankly, and this is coming from someone who likes Reigns and thinks he has a lot of potential, he just isn't that good. The crowd was booing because they know the hand-picked guy would win over the individuals who the crowd was rooting for the most.

The greatest thing about it all is that it isn't like the fans were just cheering those guys to spite the company. Ziggler, Ambrose, and Bryan are all babyfaces. This is not about Daniel Bryan. This is about the WWE once again saying "fuck you" to the fans and refusing to go with the guys the fans are clearly behind the most.
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Re: #CancelWWENetwork is Trending

Postby Kyle » Jan 27, '15, 10:37 am

Messiah wrote:
PorkChop wrote:Unless Daniel Bryan won, I'm 100% sure the eventual winner would've received a mixed reaction from the crowd at very best.


The crowd was all-in for Dolph Ziggler and Dean Ambrose so this isn't true and I'm 100% positive the crowd goes wild (in a good way) if Ziggler wins the Rumble. It wasn't until both Ziggler and Ambrose were eliminated that a "bullshit" chant started.

The fans were pissed that Daniel Bryan didn't win but the fans were more pissed because neither of the three biggest fan favorites won. All three generate louder reactions than Reigns although you could argue it is close between Ambrose and Reigns now due to the WWE killing off the former's momentum.

Roman Reigns just isn't who the face the fans want to see the most - not even in the top three. I agree he generates a solid reaction from the crowd on most nights and that is because the fans don't dislike him. But when you match him up with Ziggler, Ambrose, and Bryan? It is CLEAR who the crowd prefers and that is the bad part here. The WWE would rather force you into liking someone than choose one of the three guys the crowd prefers to see.

It isn't the case anymore but Cesaro last year before they fucked him over was generating a louder crowd reaction than Reigns too. Roman Reigns is popular but he isn't that popular compared to those guys because quite frankly, and this is coming from someone who likes Reigns and thinks he has a lot of potential, he just isn't that good. The crowd was booing because they know the hand-picked guy would win over the individuals who the crowd was rooting for the most.

The greatest thing about it all is that it isn't like the fans were just cheering those guys to spite the company. Ziggler, Ambrose, and Bryan are all babyfaces. This is not about Daniel Bryan. This is about the WWE once again saying "fuck you" to the fans and refusing to go with the guys the fans are clearly behind the most.


Perfectly said.
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