Is anyone more interested in Reigns/Lesnar than Bryan/Lesnar?

[Daz]

^^ I'd disagree heavily with the idea that Bryan is currently more athletic than Guerrero was then though. He doesn't look it in any case. Also, while Lesnar and Batista might be the same size, nobody considers them equals in terms of credibility. Lesnar has better credentials, he's visibly stronger and more powerful, he's visibly more athletic and dexterous and he's spent far more of his career being presented as a monster. Believably beating Batista is far from the same thing as beating Lesnar.

However, in the world of pro-wrestling, I definitely think Bryan can beat Lesnar and have it be convincing. Big guy vs small guy matches happen all the time, and these are both very good wrestlers who can make that dynamic work. More importantly than that, Lesnar is very good at selling. So he can make Bryan's offense look good.

So I don't quite agree with your reasoning, but I do agree with your position.

Guerrero packed on about 20 pounds too much muscle at that point in his career and wasn't quite as agile as he used to be. Bryan may not have the physique of even a Seth Rollins, but he is an incredible athlete.

[The Legend]

^^ I'd disagree heavily with the idea that Bryan is currently more athletic than Guerrero was then though. He doesn't look it in any case. Also, while Lesnar and Batista might be the same size, nobody considers them equals in terms of credibility. Lesnar has better credentials, he's visibly stronger and more powerful, he's visibly more athletic and dexterous and he's spent far more of his career being presented as a monster. Believably beating Batista is far from the same thing as beating Lesnar.

However, in the world of pro-wrestling, I definitely think Bryan can beat Lesnar and have it be convincing. Big guy vs small guy matches happen all the time, and these are both very good wrestlers who can make that dynamic work. More importantly than that, Lesnar is very good at selling. So he can make Bryan's offense look good.

So I don't quite agree with your reasoning, but I do agree with your position.

Guerrero packed on about 20 pounds too much muscle at that point in his career and wasn't quite as agile as he used to be. Bryan may not have the physique of even a Seth Rollins, but he is an incredible athlete.

You keep saying that, but I don't see it. Bryan doesn't run very fast, he doesn't jump very high. There's very little he does in the ring on a weekly basis where I say that's an elite athlete doing those things.

[Daz]

^^ I'd disagree heavily with the idea that Bryan is currently more athletic than Guerrero was then though. He doesn't look it in any case. Also, while Lesnar and Batista might be the same size, nobody considers them equals in terms of credibility. Lesnar has better credentials, he's visibly stronger and more powerful, he's visibly more athletic and dexterous and he's spent far more of his career being presented as a monster. Believably beating Batista is far from the same thing as beating Lesnar.

However, in the world of pro-wrestling, I definitely think Bryan can beat Lesnar and have it be convincing. Big guy vs small guy matches happen all the time, and these are both very good wrestlers who can make that dynamic work. More importantly than that, Lesnar is very good at selling. So he can make Bryan's offense look good.

So I don't quite agree with your reasoning, but I do agree with your position.

Guerrero packed on about 20 pounds too much muscle at that point in his career and wasn't quite as agile as he used to be. Bryan may not have the physique of even a Seth Rollins, but he is an incredible athlete.

You keep saying that, but I don't see it. Bryan doesn't run very fast, he doesn't jump very high. There's very little he does in the ring on a weekly basis where I say that's an elite athlete doing those things.

He has a spot where he backflips off the ropes. He gets as much speed as anyone doing a Suicide Dive. When he does the multiple Dropkicks in the corner, watch how fast he moves back and forth across the ring. He doesn't necessarily wrestle a style that requires him to jump that high, or run that fast, or whatever criteria you want to judge him on. Neither does John Cena, but I don't think you could discount his athletic ability. I'd put Bryan up there with anyone as an athlete and as a worker.

Whilst I won't disagree Lesnar has more credentials than Batista outside of wrestling, and therefore could and should be taken more seriously as an athlete, so maybe Bryan's win over Batista means less to this argument that perhaps it should. But then again, let's not forget that wrestling is a WORKED sport. And when Lesnar came back to WWE, he wasn't exactly portrayed as the unstoppable monster he's being billed as now. He immediately lost to Cena, he lost to Triple H (who had a gimmick "broken arm") and he's allowed himself to look vulnerable against Seth Rollins ... who isn't a whole lot bigger than Bryan. And within the context of professional wrestling, Rollins has far less credibility than Bryan does. All this talk of it not being believable is questionable at best.

You may not like Bryan, but he's certainly a far more credible opponent for Lesnar than Roman Reigns in. The only real reasoning given as to why you lean towards Reigns in this discussion seems to be because Reigns is bigger ... which is somewhat asinine.

If you've never seen Bryan vs. Takeshi Morishima, I suggest you look it up, and you'll see why the majority thinks Bryan/Lesnar would be an incredible match.

[Hanley!]

Guerrero packed on about 20 pounds too much muscle at that point in his career and wasn't quite as agile as he used to be. Bryan may not have the physique of even a Seth Rollins, but he is an incredible athlete.

Yeah, I remember him being heavier around that time. His shoulders were massive compared to his WCW days. But I dunno, he still struck me as more agile than Bryan at least. Even if he wasn't more athletic. Maybe it's the respective move-sets. Eddie had moves that made him look nimble, graceful and acrobatic. From the way he hit the 3 Amigos to his senton from the apron into the ring. He looked really crisp in there. Bryan has a ton of energy and throws himself into his moves, but he lacks that kind of grace and style that makes me love watching fluid, high-flying wrestling.

And at the same time, he doesn't seem nearly as technically accomplished as some of his predecessors either. He uses some submission holds, but we don't see a lot of chain wrestling or brilliant counters and transitions into submission holds from him in his average match.

So yeah, I kinda see where John is coming from. He lacks a certain identity in the ring: Jack of all Trades & Master of None. A lot of it comes down to his move-set, I reckon. Which I've never really liked in the WWE. I do think Bryan is good at storytelling in the ring though, so for his biggest matches he always produces something entertaining. I do think he'd have a great match with Lesnar, considering both of their abilities. But I have never quite rated him as highly in the ring as some others here, for some of the same reasons that John can't get into him.

[Daz]

I think the reason you don't see Bryan doing a lot of chain wrestling is simply because so few people on the WWE roster could keep up with him in that respect.