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2017 NFL Picks Rules and Standings Thread

Postby Everlong » Aug 14, '17, 10:43 am

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STANDINGS

*Str8Shooter: 73-31, 70.19%
Everlong: 85-42, 66.93%
*BSM: 70-35, 66.67%
Xgamr: 83-44, 65.35%
JDD: 77-45, 63.11%
**ShaneOfan: 60-38, 61.22%
*Messiah: 68-44, 60.71%
The Legend: 74-50, 59.68%
***EmperorWu: 44-31, 58.67%
DBSoT: 71-52, 57.72%




HERE WE GO AGAIN!

There may not be as many people participating this year, but fuck it, it's football season and we're going to do some picks. I'm calling on the old crew to come take part. How bout it @The Legend, @Messiah, @RatedRBowler, @CMPUNKFAN, @SKS, @HFX, @Irin, @Romo, @Philip Rivers,@xgamr, @Str8Shooter, @BSM, @GameDesigner14, @DBSOT, @JDD, @GNR, and anyone else who wants in??

For those of you who haven't done this before or need a refresher, here's how it works:

Every week, I'll post up the week's games and the point spreads for each. You will pick the winners for all of the games, getting a point for each correct answer and two points for a correct upset. You can pick as many upsets as you want, but will only get up to two bonus points. For our purposes, an upset is considered as being an underdog in the official Vegas point spread beating the favored team. You get a positive point (or two) for a correct choice and a negative point for an incorrect choice. Therefore, after a week of 16 games, the best score you could possibly get is 18-0.

While you aren't required to give reasons for picks or scores for the games, for the purposes of discussion it is highly encouraged.

I'll track the season-long percentages of all participants. However, you cannot miss any more than three weeks worth of predictions before you are discounted from the final tally. Point rewards will change come playoff time, and I'll go over those changes at that time.

Additionally, you have the chance to earn points for pre-season prediction categories. These predictions are not required, but can only help you. You do not get negative points for incorrect predictions. Those predictions can be made in this thread.

Here are the categories for season-long predictions:

SUPER BOWL CHAMPION (15 points)
CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS (1 from AFC, 1 from NFC, 7 points each)
DIVISION CHAMPIONS (4 from each conference, 4 points each)
PLAYOFF TEAMS (6 from each conference, 2 points each)
MOST VALUABLE PLAYER (5 points)

If you have any questions, please feel free to let me know. For most of you this should be old hat, we've been doing this for years. Unfortunately I only have record of champions since 2009-2010.

PAST CHAMPIONS:
2009-2010: SKS
2010-2011: Everlong
2011-2012: Everlong
2012-2013: JDD
2013-2014: Everlong (71.57%)
2014-2015: Everlong (77.41%)
2015-2016: CMPUNKFAN (71.04%)
2016-2017: CMPUNKFAN: (78.03%)

That does it. Get your season-long predictions any time before the season officially opens, and I'll add them to this thread. I will also track season-long progress here. Note that you can edit your season predictions at any time, but I will no longer accept submissions after kickoff of the first game of week one.

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Re: 2017 NFL Picks Rules and Standings Thread

Postby DBSoT » Aug 14, '17, 11:21 am

Division Champs:
NFC North - Green Bay Packers
NFC South - Atlanta Falcons
NFC East - New York Giants
NFC West - Seattle Seahawks
NFC Wild Card - Dallas Cowboys, Tampa Bay Buccaneers

AFC North - Pittsburgh Steelers
AFC South - Tennessee Titans
AFC East - New England Patriots
AFC West - Oakland Raiders
AFC Wild Card - Kansas City Chiefs, Cincinnati Bengals

Conference Champs:
AFC Champ: New England Patriots - only competition would be Oakland
NFC Champ: New York Giants

Super Bowl Champs: New England Patriots - It is impossible to pick against them.

MVP: Tom Brady
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Re: 2017 NFL Picks Rules and Standings Thread

Postby The Legend » Aug 14, '17, 2:46 pm

I'm coming for you @CMPUNKFAN

Division Champs:
NFC North - Green Bay Packers
NFC South - Tampa Bay Buccaneers
NFC East - Dallas Cowboys
NFC West - Seattle Seahawks
NFC Wild Card - NY Giants, Atlanta Falcons

AFC North - Pittsburgh Steelers
AFC South - Tennessee Titans
AFC East - New England Patriots
AFC West - Oakland Raiders
AFC Wild Card - Kansas City Chiefs, Miami Dolphins

Conference Champs:
AFC Champ: Pittsburgh Steelers
NFC Champ: Dallas Cowboys

Super Bowl Champs: Pittsburgh Steelers

MVP: Tom Brady
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Re: 2017 NFL Picks Rules and Standings Thread

Postby ShaneOfan » Aug 14, '17, 9:41 pm

Division Champs:
NFC North - Packers
NFC South - Buccs
NFC East - Cowboys
NFC West - Cards
NFC Wild Card -Skins Vikings

AFC North - Cinci
AFC South - Titans
AFC East - Pats
AFC West - Raiders
AFC Wild Card - Chiefs Steelers

Conference Champs:
AFC Champ: Pats
NFC Champ: Cowboys

Super Bowl Champs: Cowboys

MVP: Brady
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Re: 2017 NFL Picks Rules and Standings Thread

Postby BSM » Aug 16, '17, 2:43 pm

Division Champs:
NFC North - Green Bay Packers
NFC South - Atlanta Falcons
NFC East - Dallas Cowboys
NFC West - Seattle Seahawks
NFC Wild Card - Arizona Cardinals, Tampa Bay Buccaneers

AFC North - Pittsburgh Steelers
AFC South - Indianapolis Colts
AFC East - New England Patriots
AFC West - Kansas City Chiefs
AFC Wild Card - Denver Broncos, Cincinnati Bengals

Conference Champs:
AFC Champ: Pittsburgh Steelers
NFC Champ: Arizona Cardinals

Super Bowl Champs: Pittsburgh Steelers

MVP: Leveon Bell
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Re: 2017 NFL Picks Rules and Standings Thread

Postby EmperorWu » Aug 17, '17, 9:56 pm

Division Champs:
NFC North - Packers
NFC South - Falcons
NFC East - Cowboys
NFC West - Seahawks
NFC Wild Card -Giants, Vikings

AFC North - Steelers
AFC South - Titans
AFC East - Patriots
AFC West - Raiders
AFC Wild Card - Chiefs, Texans

Conference Champs:
AFC Champ: Raiders
NFC Champ: Giants

Super Bowl Champs: Raiders

MVP: Aaron Rodgers
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Re: 2017 NFL Picks Rules and Standings Thread

Postby JDD » Aug 23, '17, 11:25 am

Division Champs:
NFC North - Packers
NFC South - Falcons
NFC East - Giants
NFC West - Seahawks
NFC Wild Card - Cowboys, Vikings

AFC North - Steelers
AFC South - Titans
AFC East - Patriots
AFC West - Raiders
AFC Wild Card - Chiefs, Texans

Conference Champs:
AFC Champ: Steelers
NFC Champ: Giants

Super Bowl Champs: Giants

MVP: Dak Prescott
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Re: 2017 NFL Picks Rules and Standings Thread

Postby xgamr » Sep 04, '17, 8:43 am

Division Champs:
NFC North - Green Bay Packers
NFC South - Atlanta Falcons
NFC East - Dallas Cowboys
NFC West - Arizona Cardinals
NFC Wild Card - New York Giants, Seattle Seahawks

AFC North - Pittsburgh Steelers
AFC South - Houston Texans
AFC East - New England Patriots
AFC West - Oakland Raiders
AFC Wild Card - Denver Broncos, Tennessee Titans

Conference Champs:
AFC Champ: Pittsburgh Steelers
NFC Champ: Green Bay Packers

Super Bowl Champs: Green Bay Packers

MVP: Aaron Rodgers
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Re: 2017 NFL Picks Rules and Standings Thread

Postby Everlong » Sep 05, '17, 8:47 am

First week picks going up this afternoon!
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Re: 2017 NFL Picks Rules and Standings Thread

Postby Everlong » Sep 05, '17, 12:43 pm

SUPER BOWL CHAMPION (15 points): Gonna keep picking the Packers as long as I can!
CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS (1 from AFC, 1 from NFC, 7 points each): Packers, Patriots. CHALK BABY
DIVISION CHAMPIONS (4 from each conference, 4 points each): Packers, Panthers, Giants, Seahawks, Patriots, Steelers, Raiders, Titans
PLAYOFF TEAMS (6 from each conference, 2 points each): Packers, Panthers, Giants, Seahawks, Cowboys, Falcons, Patriots, Steelers, Raiders, Titans, Chiefs, Bengals
MOST VALUABLE PLAYER (5 points): Aaron Rodgers
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Re: 2017 NFL Picks Rules and Standings Thread

Postby Messiah » Sep 07, '17, 3:18 pm

SUPER BOWL CHAMPION (15 points): Seattle Seahawks
CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS (1 from AFC, 1 from NFC, 7 points each): Titans, Seahawks
DIVISION CHAMPIONS (4 from each conference, 4 points each): Packers, Falcons, Giants, Seahawks, Patriots, Steelers, Raiders, Titans
PLAYOFF TEAMS (6 from each conference, 2 points each): Packers, Panthers, Giants, Seahawks, Eagles, Falcons, Patriots, Steelers, Raiders, Titans, Chiefs, Bengals
MOST VALUABLE PLAYER (5 points): Marcus Mariota
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Re: 2017 NFL Picks Rules and Standings Thread

Postby Everlong » Sep 19, '17, 9:23 am

Standings updated! Here's how things stand:

Str8Shooter: 30-3, 90.91%
The Legend: 29-5, 85.29%
Everlong: 28-7, 80.00%
DBSoT: 22-9, 70.97%
BSM: 22-9, 70.97%
JDD: 24-10, 70.59%
Xgamr: 21-12, 63.64%
Messiah: 20-13, 60.61%
ShaneOfan: 18-13, 58.06%
*EmperorWu: 8-8, 50.00%

@Str8Shooter might be off to the hottest start we've ever seen in the picks contest, with The Legend nipping on his heels. But with 15 weeks of the regular season to go, there's MORE than enough time for things to regress to the mean.
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Re: 2017 NFL Picks Rules and Standings Thread

Postby The Legend » Sep 19, '17, 4:33 pm

I don't like your insinuations @Everlong 85% correct picks is my mean 8) :D
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Re: 2017 NFL Picks Rules and Standings Thread

Postby Everlong » Sep 26, '17, 11:14 am

Remember how I said we'd regress to the mean? Yeah, that happened in a hurry :lol

@The Legend, @Str8Shooter and myself all take massive tumbles... but so did everyone except @Messiah and @ShaneOfan. Here's how we stand after three weeks:

Str8Shooter: 38-11, 77.55%
Everlong: 36-15, 70.59%
The Legend: 34-16, 68.00%
Messiah: 32-18, 64.00%
DBSoT: 30-18, 62.50%
BSM: 29-18, 61.70%
ShaneOfan: 30-19, 61.22%
Xgamr: 30-20, 60.00%
JDD: 29-20, 59.18%
**EmperorWu: 8-8, 50.00%
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Re: 2017 NFL Picks Rules and Standings Thread

Postby The Legend » Sep 26, '17, 12:52 pm

Tim the kiss of death jinx.
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Re: 2017 NFL Picks Rules and Standings Thread

Postby Everlong » Oct 03, '17, 1:29 pm

Updated!

@Str8Shooter maintains the lead, picking a good time to miss a week apparently. @EmpeerorWu cano't miss any more weeks without being eliminated. Meanwhile, everyone else came crashing down to earth VERY quickly in what's been a highly unpredictable season so far.

*Str8Shooter: 38-11, 77.55%
Messiah: 42-23, 64.61%
Everlong: 44-23, 63.77%
BSM: 40-23, 63.49%
The Legend: 42-24, 61.76%
ShaneOfan: 42-24, 61.76%
DBSoT: 39-25, 60.94%
Xgamr: 40-26, 60.61%
JDD: 39-26, 60.00%
***EmperorWu: 8-8, 50.00
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Re: 2017 NFL Picks Rules and Standings Thread

Postby Messiah » Oct 08, '17, 3:46 pm

Messiah wrote:SUPER BOWL CHAMPION (15 points): Seattle Seahawks
CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS (1 from AFC, 1 from NFC, 7 points each): Titans, Seahawks
DIVISION CHAMPIONS (4 from each conference, 4 points each): Packers, Falcons, Giants, Seahawks, Patriots, Steelers, Raiders, Titans
PLAYOFF TEAMS (6 from each conference, 2 points each): Packers, Panthers, Giants, Seahawks, Eagles, Falcons, Patriots, Steelers, Raiders, Titans, Chiefs, Bengals
MOST VALUABLE PLAYER (5 points): Marcus Mariota


LOL

Raiders/Titans/Bengals will probably miss the playoffs. Giants are definitely missing. Seahawks will be battling a bunch of wildcard teams for a spot. Titans definitely aren't winning the AFC. Mariota definitely isn't winning MVP.

Gotta love the NFL.
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Re: 2017 NFL Picks Rules and Standings Thread

Postby Everlong » Oct 09, '17, 8:12 am

Messiah wrote:
Messiah wrote:SUPER BOWL CHAMPION (15 points): Seattle Seahawks
CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS (1 from AFC, 1 from NFC, 7 points each): Titans, Seahawks
DIVISION CHAMPIONS (4 from each conference, 4 points each): Packers, Falcons, Giants, Seahawks, Patriots, Steelers, Raiders, Titans
PLAYOFF TEAMS (6 from each conference, 2 points each): Packers, Panthers, Giants, Seahawks, Eagles, Falcons, Patriots, Steelers, Raiders, Titans, Chiefs, Bengals
MOST VALUABLE PLAYER (5 points): Marcus Mariota


LOL

Raiders/Titans/Bengals will probably miss the playoffs. Giants are definitely missing. Seahawks will be battling a bunch of wildcard teams for a spot. Titans definitely aren't winning the AFC. Mariota definitely isn't winning MVP.

Gotta love the NFL.


Dude I feel ya. Raiders have been a huge disappointment. Titans are flopping. Wouldn't count out the Bengals yet in that division. And WTF is going on with the Giants?!?!? No excuse to be as bad as they are. Until now anyway, now that their top four receivers are all hurt.

What a crazy season this has been so far.
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Re: 2017 NFL Picks Rules and Standings Thread

Postby Everlong » Oct 10, '17, 12:07 pm

UPDATE!

A wacky and unpredictable season continues, as we've got more people below 65 percent at this point of the season than ever. Here's how things currently stand:

*Str8Shooter: 45-19, 70.31%
Everlong: 56-27, 67.47%
*BSM: 40-23, 63.49%
Messiah: 51-30, 62.96%
Xgamr: 51-31, 62.19%
ShaneOfan: 50-32, 60.98%
JDD: 49-32, 60.49%
The Legend: 48-33, 59.26%
DBSoT: 45-34, 56.96%
***EmperorWu: 17-15, 53.13
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Re: 2017 NFL Picks Rules and Standings Thread

Postby Everlong » Oct 18, '17, 2:01 pm

Standings updated! @Str8Shooter remains in the lead, bu tall I can say is... wtf is happening this season? :lol

*Str8Shooter: 51-27, 65.38%
Everlong: 63-35, 64.29%
*ShaneOfan: 50-32, 60.98%
Xgamr: 59-39, 60.20%
*BSM: 46-31, 59.74%
Messiah: 57-39, 59.38%
JDD: 57-39, 59.38%
The Legend: 54-42, 56.25%
DBSoT: 52-42, 55.31%
***EmperorWu: 23-23, 50.00
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