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Re: Brady and Belichick are the best to ever do it

Postby Messiah » Feb 08, '17, 10:11 pm

Once the Patriots got the greatest QB they don't lose him, Brady makes re-loading a lot easier. Again it's Brady and 52 dudes off the street that could win the Super Bowl. Having the greatest QB in the league's history is a lot simpler to keep in the salary cap era than having a dozen guys that are all great that all need to get paid to keep the team moving.


They won 3 Super Bowls between 2001-2004 and Brady definitely wasn't playing at the GOAT level around that time period.
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Re: Brady and Belichick are the best to ever do it

Postby The Legend » Feb 09, '17, 5:43 am

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Once the Patriots got the greatest QB they don't lose him, Brady makes re-loading a lot easier. Again it's Brady and 52 dudes off the street that could win the Super Bowl. Having the greatest QB in the league's history is a lot simpler to keep in the salary cap era than having a dozen guys that are all great that all need to get paid to keep the team moving.


They won 3 Super Bowls between 2001-2004 and Brady definitely wasn't playing at the GOAT level around that time period.


I don't know that I agree with that. The Patriots went 5-13 in their first 18 games under Belichick. Then Drew Bledsoe got broken in half. All that changed was inserting Brady for Bledsoe and the Pats went from 0-2 to Super Bowl champs in 2001. Brady may not have been being asked to do quite the same level of things from the offense at the time, but what he was asked to do he did at an elite level, especially in clutch winning time.
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Re: Brady and Belichick are the best to ever do it

Postby Messiah » Feb 09, '17, 8:36 am

The Legend wrote:
Messiah wrote:
Once the Patriots got the greatest QB they don't lose him, Brady makes re-loading a lot easier. Again it's Brady and 52 dudes off the street that could win the Super Bowl. Having the greatest QB in the league's history is a lot simpler to keep in the salary cap era than having a dozen guys that are all great that all need to get paid to keep the team moving.


They won 3 Super Bowls between 2001-2004 and Brady definitely wasn't playing at the GOAT level around that time period.


I don't know that I agree with that. The Patriots went 5-13 in their first 18 games under Belichick. Then Drew Bledsoe got broken in half. All that changed was inserting Brady for Bledsoe and the Pats went from 0-2 to Super Bowl champs in 2001. Brady may not have been being asked to do quite the same level of things from the offense at the time, but what he was asked to do he did at an elite level, especially in clutch winning time.


So New England's 6th, 1st, and 2nd ranked defenses had nothing to do with the Patriots winning the Super Bowl those years? It was Brady who stopped the Rams offense?

Again, you are overrating the hell out of Brady (didn't think that was possible). Brady's level of play has not been in some different universe than Rodgers' over the last 5 years. New England's success goes beyond just Brady.

You know that Bledsoe, not Brady, was the QB for the Patriots win in the 2001 AFC Championship game, right?
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