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Re: Indiana law now makes it legal for businesses to discriminate against gay customers

Postby Chewy » Apr 06, '15, 3:28 am

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't this story about a cake maker who refused to make a wedding cake for a gay couple?
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Re: Indiana law now makes it legal for businesses to discriminate against gay customers

Postby The Legend » Apr 06, '15, 5:10 am

Chewy wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't this story about a cake maker who refused to make a wedding cake for a gay couple?


Yes, that's how this started.
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Re: Indiana law now makes it legal for businesses to discriminate against gay customers

Postby Chewy » Apr 06, '15, 7:09 am

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Chewy wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't this story about a cake maker who refused to make a wedding cake for a gay couple?


Yes, that's how this started.


So not quite the social apocalypse that the title suggests then.
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Re: Indiana law now makes it legal for businesses to discriminate against gay customers

Postby The Legend » Apr 06, '15, 7:50 am

Chewy wrote:
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Chewy wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't this story about a cake maker who refused to make a wedding cake for a gay couple?


Yes, that's how this started.


So not quite the social apocalypse that the title suggests then.


We shall see. It depends on how many other businesses follow suit and how many people get discriminated against.
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Re: Indiana law now makes it legal for businesses to discriminate against gay customers

Postby Daz » Apr 06, '15, 11:11 am

The cake maker is actually a different story. This one is about the governor of Indianana passing a bill to make it legal for business owners to discriminate against homosexuals in the name of religious freedom.
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Re: Indiana law now makes it legal for businesses to discriminate against gay customers

Postby JPG619 » Apr 06, '15, 1:49 pm

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Everlong wrote:http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/25/politics/mike-pence-religious-freedom-bill-gay-rights/

While many states are moving forward, states like these are moving backward.

What the fuck, Indiana??

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Trust me, a large majority of Hoosiers(including me) called Gov. Pence and told him we are against it. GameCon will be leaving Indianapolis for good, and many other large events. Ashamed to say I live in a bully state.


I feel sorry for you dude, but people are people and not what they do in bed should be discriminated. They are paying customers just like anyone and if they don't accept people for who they are then everyone should not give them business. If there was a business in my area that would ban someone for his or her sexual preference, race, or gender I for one would never give them business.
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Re: Indiana law now makes it legal for businesses to discriminate against gay customers

Postby UTK » Apr 06, '15, 2:57 pm

While I have nothing against the LGBT community and don't care where people put their genitals, I'm surprised that private business owners can't already do this. They already have the right to not serve people for a ton of other reasons. Personally, if you own a business and you have a stance on a group of people and you'd rather they not take your business, I think you should have the right not to let them. They can walk to the bakery down the street. Also, I think people are overestimating how many businesses would discriminate and not serve members of the LGBT community. Look at the public outrage in and out of Indiana.

All that being said, if I lived in Indiana and was aware of a store that was actively discriminating against people, I'd think twice before bringing my business there.

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Re: Indiana law now makes it legal for businesses to discriminate against gay customers

Postby Chewy » Apr 06, '15, 4:34 pm

Daz wrote:The cake maker is actually a different story. This one is about the governor of Indianana passing a bill to make it legal for business owners to discriminate against homosexuals in the name of religious freedom.


Again correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the whole law being passed a result of the cake maker being sued for discrimination by said gay couple?

Ultimately they wanted to pass a law that would allow a business to decline service to any person based on the shop owners discretion regardless of gender, race, beliefs etc.

That sounds a bit different to the governor turning around and saying it's now lawful to stop serving gays because they're an abomination to our invisible sky wizard.
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Re: Indiana law now makes it legal for businesses to discriminate against gay customers

Postby Daz » Apr 06, '15, 7:52 pm

Chewy wrote:
Daz wrote:The cake maker is actually a different story. This one is about the governor of Indianana passing a bill to make it legal for business owners to discriminate against homosexuals in the name of religious freedom.


Again correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the whole law being passed a result of the cake maker being sued for discrimination by said gay couple?

Ultimately they wanted to pass a law that would allow a business to decline service to any person based on the shop owners discretion regardless of gender, race, beliefs etc.

That sounds a bit different to the governor turning around and saying it's now lawful to stop serving gays because they're an abomination to our invisible sky wizard.


The cake thing was a whole other story that happened in, I want to say Colorado, unrelated to this one, other than the subject matter.

I do remember reading a story about that couple taking the cake shop to court though. Only in that instance, I believe the court said the cake shop couldn't discriminate against anyone and everyone should be treated equally and be free to eat and buy cakes should they bloody well desire. So it's the exact opposite of what's happening in Indiana.
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Re: Indiana law now makes it legal for businesses to discriminate against gay customers

Postby War Daddy » Apr 06, '15, 8:45 pm

Daz wrote:
Chewy wrote:
Daz wrote:The cake maker is actually a different story. This one is about the governor of Indianana passing a bill to make it legal for business owners to discriminate against homosexuals in the name of religious freedom.


Again correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the whole law being passed a result of the cake maker being sued for discrimination by said gay couple?

Ultimately they wanted to pass a law that would allow a business to decline service to any person based on the shop owners discretion regardless of gender, race, beliefs etc.

That sounds a bit different to the governor turning around and saying it's now lawful to stop serving gays because they're an abomination to our invisible sky wizard.


The cake thing was a whole other story that happened in, I want to say Colorado, unrelated to this one, other than the subject matter.

I do remember reading a story about that couple taking the cake shop to court though. Only in that instance, I believe the court said the cake shop couldn't discriminate against anyone and everyone should be treated equally and be free to eat and buy cakes should they bloody well desire. So it's the exact opposite of what's happening in Indiana.


@Chewy This whole issue came about when our governor signed a bill saying business owners have a right to discriminate against ANYONE, not just gays.

The cake maker story is new to me unless you were referring to the pizza parlor that closed down due to death threats from 'christians" for not catering a gay wedding. However after they closed, the LGBT community, a small portion of it, actually donated money to bring them back into business. This whole thing is getting out of hand though.
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Re: Indiana law now makes it legal for businesses to discriminate against gay customers

Postby Chewy » Apr 06, '15, 9:39 pm

Alpha Beast wrote:
Daz wrote:
Chewy wrote:
Daz wrote:The cake maker is actually a different story. This one is about the governor of Indianana passing a bill to make it legal for business owners to discriminate against homosexuals in the name of religious freedom.


Again correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the whole law being passed a result of the cake maker being sued for discrimination by said gay couple?

Ultimately they wanted to pass a law that would allow a business to decline service to any person based on the shop owners discretion regardless of gender, race, beliefs etc.

That sounds a bit different to the governor turning around and saying it's now lawful to stop serving gays because they're an abomination to our invisible sky wizard.


The cake thing was a whole other story that happened in, I want to say Colorado, unrelated to this one, other than the subject matter.

I do remember reading a story about that couple taking the cake shop to court though. Only in that instance, I believe the court said the cake shop couldn't discriminate against anyone and everyone should be treated equally and be free to eat and buy cakes should they bloody well desire. So it's the exact opposite of what's happening in Indiana.


@Chewy This whole issue came about when our governor signed a bill saying business owners have a right to discriminate against ANYONE, not just gays.

The cake maker story is new to me unless you were referring to the pizza parlor that closed down due to death threats from 'christians" for not catering a gay wedding. However after they closed, the LGBT community, a small portion of it, actually donated money to bring them back into business. This whole thing is getting out of hand though.


Is it really am issue that the owner of a business can refuse service to any person? Pubs have been doing this for years based on the dress of a patron.

I do have an issue of people who don't own the specific business dictating who that business should service.
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